I am writing on behalf of Ravensbourne Valley Preservation Society, an organisation with nearly 500 members, many of whose houses are close to Beckenham Place Park.Although not opposed in principle to the application for a new Premises licence in respect of the park, we have a number of concerns, detailed below, and would like to have these concerns considered and relevant conditions imposed should the licence be granted by the licencing committee.Suggested conditions to apply to the events licenceAttendance
- Maximum daily attendance should be limited to 5000 (not maximum attendance of 5000 at any one time)
- A robust ticketing system should be mandated to ensure maximum not breached
- All events of 500 or more people must have an event management plan. The scope and contents of these plans should be agreed before the granting of the licence.
- Toilet facilities in the park are inadequate even for current usage. In addition to temporary facilities to be installed for events we believe there should be additional permanent facilities especially in view of the likely increased daily usage which will result from the park becoming better known as a consequence of anticipated events.
Number of events
- No more than four events per year with an expected attendance of between 1000 and 5000 people should be allowed
- No more than 12 events per year with an expected attendance of up to 1000 people should be allowed
- An area outside of which amplified sound must not be played should be specified (to ensure that neighbours are not inconvenienced by excessive noise)
- Peak and average sound level at the perimeter of the park which sound levels will not exceed should be specified
- Total time of amplified sound per event should be no more than 3 hours
- All events should have sound monitoring equipment available to ensure compliance with the above
- For all events over 500 people, Bromley Town Ward and Beckenham Ward councillors, Friends of BPP, Copers Cope Residents Association, Ravensbourne Valley Preservation Society and local police must be consulted regarding traffic management.
- A specimen traffic management plan must be supplied showing how traffic relating to 5000 people would be managed.
Timing of events
- No noisy events on a Sunday
- Amplified sound to cease by 10:30 PM
- Amplified sound not to start before 9AM
- Events with over a thousand attending to be no more than 8 hours in duration
- No event before 9AM
- No large event (>500 people) before 11AM on Sundays and Bank Holidays
Following your objection to the application for a premises licence at Beckenham Place Park I would like to update you on where we currently are.We have agreed a set of conditions that will be attached to the licence and a plan of the park.These conditions will apply to all events taking place in the park. You will see that at the top of the conditions we have activities (under 499) and events (499 and over).This is because a lot of the activities the park may be used for have been deregulated and therefore would not require a licence.All events will be taken to the Events Safety Advisory Group (ESAG). This is a multi-agency group, which considers and advises on all proposals for major events. ESAG normally meets to discuss any event over 5000 people but as this is a new licence all events over 499 people will be heard by ESAG.The map attached is a draft but it shows that we have zoned the park. This will make it easier for us as an authority to make sure the events held in the park are held in the correct areas. We have agreed that Zone (I) which is on the west side of the park near to Beckenham Hill Road can have a licence until 23:00 hours on a Friday and Saturday. This area is proposed to be used for marquees which will hold private parties. Everywhere else in the park will have a licence until 22:00 hours.There will be no events taking place within 75 meters of any boundary property and all amplified music will be monitored while events take place.When events are advertised they will encourage all attendees to use public transport.All events will be advertised on Lewisham Councils Website, Beckenham Place Park website and all notice boards within the park.There will be no more than 6 events with a capacity of over 2,500 per year.I have received a lot of objections from residents who have said they need more information on this application and I hope this email will answer a lot of your questions.If you have objected and now feel you would like to withdraw your objection please let me know.If you would like further information please send me an email and I will do my best to answer any questions.I am working from home today and if you require a call back please send me an email with your contact number and I will do my best to call you back.
- General support raised however consultation has been requested for embankment works and concern raised in regard to the access point and possible noise and anti-social behaviour as a result of the cycle track.
- Possible damage to highway during construction. Damage should not be paid for by residents and highway could be adopted.
- Vehicle access to fields should be prevented to avoid fly tipping. Existing river bed should be retained to assist this.
- Planting should be used to prevent overlooking as a result of the raising of the bank.
- Boardwalks across wetlands should have sufficient protections from falling to allow young children to walk to the playground.
- Parking in nearby roads should not be negatively affected by either use or construction traffic.
This licence is extremely broad. Theoretically, any number of major events could be held during the year, at any time between 00:01 and 23:00. Clearly this is unacceptable and possible representations to the Licensing Authority to restrict the activities to reasonable levels are under discussion.
- works to raise low points in existing river walls between Ladywell and Lewisham town centre;
- the formation of a floodwater storage area within Ladywell Green (land bounded by Slagrove Place, SE13);
- the realignment of the River Ravensbourne and formation of a flood storage area at Beckenham Place Park, BR3, together with associated structures and landscaping works.
Works we’re proposing which would reduce the risk of flooding to Lewisham and Catford. You may already be familiar with our proposals via my colleague Richard Peddie, or following the public consultation that we carried out in the summer of 2014, when the scheme was at an earlier stage of development.We are now starting to undertake detailed design and there will be another public consultation this summer when there will be a further opportunity to see the latest proposals and influence the design.The reason for contacting you now is that contractors working on our behalf will be at various sites close to the river Ravensbourne over the next month to check ground conditions. Please see the attached briefing notes for more information. One gives general background about the scheme, and the other provides some details about the ground investigation works.
There has been another recent planning application relating to Lewisham Council’s proposals to improve Beckenham Place Park:
- Screening Opinion under Regulation 5 of the Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 2011, as amended, in respect of the proposed regeneration of part (west of rail line) of Beckenham Place Park, Beckenham Hill Road, BR3 comprising of: the rebuilding and change of use of the stable block to include a café (A3) and education use (D1); alterations to and change of use of the Gardener's Cottage for volunteer use (D2); alterations to and refurbishment of Southend Lodge and extension of associated park depot, including the provision of new storage buildings; alterations to and refurbishment of the Gatehouse; demolition of park storage and toilet structures; excavation to provide a lake and wetland area with associated boardwalk areas; relocation and extension of car park; and extensive landscape works including re-contouring of land, re-surfacing of existing paths, provision of new paths, new street furniture, play and gym equipment, boardwalks, lighting, signage and boundary treatment; tree removal and new planting.
BECKENHAM PLACE PARK GOLF COURSE, BECKENHAM PLACE PARK, BECKENHAM
Ref. No: DC/16/098117 | Received: Mon 19 Dec 2016 | Validated: Mon 19 Dec 2016
- The proposed regeneration of part (west of rail line) of Beckenham Place Park, Beckenham Hill Road, BR3 comprising of: the rebuilding and change of use of the stable block to include a café (A3) and education use (D1); alterations to and change of use of the Gardener’s Cottage for volunteer use (D2); alterations to and refurbishment of Southend Lodge and extension of associated park depot, including the provision of new storage buildings; alterations to and refurbishment of the Gatehouse; demolition of park storage and toilet structures; excavation to provide a lake and wetland area with associated boardwalk areas; relocation and extension of car park; and extensive landscape works including re-contouring of land, re-surfacing of existing paths, provision of new paths, new street furniture, play and gym equipment, boardwalks, lighting, signage and boundary treatment; tree removal and new planting.
LAND AND BUILDINGS, BECKENHAM PLACE PARK, BECKENHAM, BR3
Ref. No: DC/16/099042 | Received: Tue 08 Nov 2016 | Validated: Tue 22 Nov 2016
- Listed Building Consent for the proposed rebuilding and conversion of the stable block at Beckenham Place Park, Beckenham Hill Road, BR3 to provide a cafe and education centre together with alterations to and refurbishment of Southend Lodge and the Gatehouse.
LAND AND BUILDINGS, BECKENHAM PLACE PARK, BECKENHAM, BR3
Ref. No: DC/16/099043 | Received: Tue 08 Nov 2016 | Validated: Tue 22 Nov 2016
- The construction of community BMX cycling facility comprising a limestone grit track, landscaped grass mounds and a temporary storage unit at Beckenham Place Park, BR1.
GAUGING STATION, BECKENHAM PARK PLACE, LONDON, BR1 4JY
Ref. No: DC/16/097594 | Received: Mon 18 Jul 2016 | Validated: Mon 19 Sep 2016
The pages available on the Lewisham Council site on improving Beckenham Place Park have been updated accordingly. They now comprise:
- Background to improving Beckenham Place Park
- Shaping the future for Beckenham Place Park
- Consultation responses for Beckenham Place Park
- Draft masterplan for Beckenham Place Park
- Buildings in Beckenham Place Park
- Tree management in Beckenham Place Park
- Closure of golf course in Beckenham Place Park
- Beckenham Place Park – questions and answers
- New planting
- Tree removal
- Removing dead and diseased trees
- Restoring views and removing inappropriate planting
- Preserving and celebrating veteran trees
- Memorial trees
- the Grade II* listed Mansion House
- the Foxgrove Club
- the remaining part of the homesteads.
- There is widespread support overall for the regeneration of the park. The proposals are welcomed by a broad cross-section of the local community, while a minority of people will use the park less frequently following the regeneration.
- Our plans to use the park for both large-scale and small events, with different themes, are backed by a majority of people.
- Those we spoke to strongly welcome our plans to improve access to the park for walkers and disabled users. Most people approve of our attempts to relocate paths and car parks to ensure visitors can easily access facilities.
- Our efforts to improve preservation of the park’s historic buildings, meeting places and facilities have attracted widespread encouragement from those we have spoken to.
- Most of the people we consulted are keen for us to improve the information available within the park about its history and heritage – a key part of our regeneration plans.
- Alongside plans to enhance preservation of the park’s historic features, our proposals for new play areas at both ends of the park have proved popular.
- Our plans to substantially boost the educational value of the park have been well received by local schools, with a large number indicating that they would use the park for outdoor learning following the changes.
According to the News Shopper, the All Party Parliamentary Group for Golf has lent its support to the golf course. However, Lewisham Mayor Sir Steve Bullock has replied to the group, saying there has been a “marked reduction” in the use of the course which has resulted in residents subsidising a facility for a “small group of users”. He said: “We continue to develop plans to implement the changes which have already been agreed and see no reason to reconsider the decision.” Lewisham Council does not believe it fair that local taxpayers should continue to subsidise a dwindling number of local golfers who want to play here, especially when government cuts mean we have less to spend on their social care, street sweeping, libraries and other services.”
- Awareness of Beckenham Place Park
- Character of the Park
- General landscape
- Biodiversity and woodlands
Lewisham Council has secured a Round 1 pass from the Heritage Lottery Fund’s Parks for People programme. Draft proposals for the restoration and regeneration of the park and buildings have been developed and the Council would like to hear your views about these plans. The comments received will be used to inform the next stages of planning the project.
The plans will be available at a series of exhibitions and events over the coming weeks. The events will be staffed by members of the project team, who will be on hand to explain the proposals and to answer any questions you may have.
The programme of exhibitions is shown below.
Monday 29 February 20169.30 a.m. – 12.30 p.m.Downham Library, 7–9 Moorside Road, Bromley BR1 5EPSaturday 5 March 201611.00 a.m. – 3.00 p.m.Beckenham High Street, Beckenham BR3 1AH (outside Sainsbury's)Wednesday 9 March 20161.00 p.m. – 6.00 p.m.14–15 Catford Broadway, London SE6 4SP (opposite Costa Coffee)Sunday 13 March 20162.00 p.m. – 4.00 p.m.Beckenham Place Park Mansion House (Visitor Centre), Beckenham BR3 5BPMonday 14 March 20169.00 a.m. – 11.30 a.m.The Green Man, 355 Bromley Road, London SE6 2RPMonday 14 March 201612 noon – 4.00 p.m.Bellingham High Street, 14 Randlesdown Road, London SE6 3BU (shop next to the Post Office)Thursday 17 March 20163.00 p.m. – 5.00 p.m. and 7.00 p.m. – 8.30 p.m.Church Hall, Evangelical Church, Cromwell Road, Beckenham BR3 4LWMonday 21 March 20166.00 p.m. – 9.00 p.m.The Green Man, 355 Bromley Road, London SE6 2RPSaturday 26 March 2016 (Easter Fun Day)11.00 a.m. – 3.00 p.m.Beckenham Place Park Mansion, Beckenham BR3 5BP
The timetable on the Lewisham Council website is not telling us much, but it has been reported elsewhere that they took the decision last week to remodel Beckenham Place Park, the borough’s largest public open space, into someone’s idea of what it might have looked like in the 18th century, including creating a new lake.
Public consultation on the park’s designs to include events, public meetings, surveys, and work with young people to inform designs will now take place from mid-February to April 2016.
The timetable appears to have slipped. The Mayor and Cabinet are now expected to consider the report on the progress of the bid for Heritage Lottery Funding and the future of the golf course on 17 February 2016. Two more pages are available on the Lewisham Council site on improving Beckenham Place Park:
’Dogging’ in the car park - is this how you envisioned the future for what used to be a useful and valued community asset?
Parkland restoration and historic view management: native tree planting, restoration of 18th century parkland landscaping as setting to south of the Mansion House.
The following pages are available on the Lewisham Council site on improving Beckenham Place Park:
- Current use of the park
- Shaping the future for the park
- Heritage Lottery Funding
- Buildings in the park
- Consultation activities
In connection with consultation activities, Lewisham say they need to complete detailed design work for the improved Beckenham Place Park to submit the second stage bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund by August 2016. They are very keen to involve current and future users of the park in developing ideas for how the park might look and how it will be used. This is their plan for consultation and engagement activities and the outline timetable for the project:
October to December 2015
Consultation with stakeholders through meetings and focus groups
Consultation with schools on outdoor education opportunities
9 December 2015
Mayor and Cabinet consider report on progress of bid for Heritage Lottery Funding and future of golf course
If it is decided to proceed with the bid then consultation will continue in order to progress designs for the park. What follows is subject to the decision on 9 December 2015.
January to April 2016
Public consultation on the park’s designs to include events, public meetings, surveys, and work with young people to inform designs
May to June 2016
Design verification. Public displays and events
Submit final proposal to Heritage Lottery fund for approval
By January 2017
Secure funds from HLF
January to Summer 2017
Procurement and finalise detailed designs
Works on site begin
By Christmas 2018
In an article entitled "How will we get another McIlroy if we kill off golf's public courses?", Beckenham Place Park is featured in today's Daily Mail. The reference is to Rory McIlroy, MBE, a Northern Irish professional golfer from Holywood in County Down who is a member of both the European and PGA Tours. He is the current World Number One and a four-time major champion.
According to newspaper reports, around 1,800 square metres of the area around Loampit Vale in Lewisham was affected by flooding from noon onwards on 23 November 2014 after the river Ravensbourne burst its banks. The Lewisham Gateway team and the Environment Agency are conducting an investigation, which will identify if the works contributed to the flooding and if so what measures could be put in place to prevent further incidents.
Update – answers to our questions – 24 July 2014
We can now publish the Environment Agency's answers to our questions. See here.
Sheep grazing in 1920s at Beckenham Place Park – photo courtesy of Phoenix Community Housing
02. Existing path upgrades
03. New site wide path network
04. Removal of existing 18 hole golf course, for parkland restoration & historic view management
05. Beckenham Place Mansion
06. Proposed new car park
07. Southend Lodge & depot
08. Tennis court & kitchen/formal gardens
09. The Homesteads & Garden Cottage complex
12. Existing park storage/depot area
13. Ash Plantation
14. Proposed designated BMX/cycle track
15. Adventure play to The Common & Ravensbourne River
16. Old Bromley Road playground
17. Old Bromley Road skate park
18. Old Bromley Road car park
19. Old Bromley Road new Kiosk / WC building
Update – Lewisham and Catford flood alleviation scheme – 3 July 2014
Further information detailing the flood reduction scheme in Beckenham Place Park is now available. The files contain Environment Agency information, and copyright and database right reside with the Environment Agency. They comprise the following:
- Posters – used as part of the public drop-in sessions detailing the proposals for the flood storage at Beckenham Place Park, works on Honor Oak stream and localised works to river wall (see especially Poster 5, also reproduced below, which shows a plan of the proposed works).
- Briefing note – good as a handout and outlining the scheme with some background.
- Flood map –
i) the Ravensbourne model, which has been produced by Halcrow in 2010 to show flood risk in each rainfall event (return period); andii) the National Flood Risk Assessment model, using local data and expertise.
The Environment Agency has just released details of a flood alleviation scheme in our area. In short, the intention is, at times of exceptional rainfall, to store temporarily water in our area to prevent flooding in Lewisham.
To do this a very big earth bank will be built in order to make, at times of exceptional rainfall, a lake. This lake will be formed on:
- Summerhouse Field (the flat field next to the cycle path which itself is next to the river);
- the rough piece of ground formerly the playing fields of the Goan Association (UK);
- a large part of Warren Avenue Playing Fields; and
- most of Millwall FC training ground.
The water will be released again, allowing the grass to reappear, after the risk of flooding downstream has passed. The briefing note from the Environment Agency gives further details. More information to follow when we have it.
Lewisham and Catford flood alleviation scheme – 26 June 2014
See here for how the Environment Agency is working to reduce the risk of flooding in the Lewisham and Catford area. This document explains the plans to manage flood risk within the floodplain of the river Ravensbourne, including flood storage at Beckenham Place Park.
Beckenham Place Park – Heritage Lottery – 10 January 2014
Kate Yorke has been in touch, indicating she works in the Programme Management team at Lewisham Council, and is currently working on the Heritage Lottery bids for Beckenham Place Park. The Friends of Beckenham Place Park group is very interested in the bid, and they have been invited to a consultation event that will be taking place on Saturday 18 January 2014 from 10 a.m. to about 3 p.m. at the Green Man in Downham. The Green Man is now a Phoenix housing office / events development on the site of the old Green Man pub, opposite Sainsbury's Homebase at Peter Pan’s Pool / Bromley Road, Southend Village.
The landscape architects that are involved in the bid have drawn up different options of how the park could look in the future which will be displayed at the event, and they would be interested in hearing opinions on each option. The architects will be explaining the plans to small groups which should leave plenty of time for questions and feedback.
The session on Saturday will be split into two groups – the morning (10 a.m. to 12 noon) will be specifically for current users of the park, such as the Friends of Beckenham Place Park and working party, and the afternoon (1 to 3:30 p.m.) will be open to all local residents that are interested.
It’s important that we make sure that the park's character is preserved, regardless of the preliminary grant bid process. The fear is that landscape architects will come up with grandiose schemes that destroy some of the natural aspects of the park.
Anyone would like to attend should you let Kate know by Friday 10 January 2014 .